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Today's sporking is by [livejournal.com profile] anitaray. She's on vacation until February 20th.

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Chapter 30: The Sacking of Severus Snape


In which Harry runs about hither and tither watching other people do stuff, and Voldemort chills for a bit. A LONG bit.



… Harry's scar burned savagely, the starry room vanished from sight, and he was standing upon an outcrop of rock beneath a cliff, and the sea was washing around him and there was a triumph in his heart – They have the boy.

Holy run-on sentence, Batman!

Also, WTF are you still doing at the entrance of the cave, Voldie? Did someone put Impedimenta on this guy? Because seriously, let's track his movements, OK?

TRIO
VOLDIECAKES
Fallen off the dragon's back, relaxing on the island beach. Chillin'.
Harry can haz vision? Finds out trio stole the cup, goes postal on Bella's ass.
Harry shares vision; trio analyses vision. Chillin'.
Apparate to Hogsmeade Chillin'.
Set off the Caterwauling Charm, hide from DEs and fend off
Dementors.
Chillin'.
Rescued by Aberforth. Eat large but simple dinner. Chillin'.
Aberforth shares long sob story of Albus, Ariana and Grindelwald. Chillin'.
Neville shows up. Chillin'. 'Cause he doesn't fear Neville like he should, the
retard!
Neville tells trio what's been happening at Hogwarts all year. Chillin'.
Many happy reunions and more stories at the Room of Requirement. Chillin'.
Harry can haz vision? Apparates to Gaunt shack, finds ring missing, criez.
Arguments and conversations in RoR. Cryin'.
Luna, Dean, Fred, George, Lee and Ginny show up. Cryin'.
Happy reunions, arguments and pointless conversation. Cryin'.
Luna mentions the Diadem, people scoff, Harry's inetersted. Cryin'.
Harry can haz vision? Flying to the cave.
Harry & Luna dodge teachers and corridor patrol to reach
Ravenclaw Tower.
Flyin'.
Luna answers riddle, they enter the Ravenclaw common room. Flyin'.
Alecto catches Harry and alerts Voldemort. O HAI! I IZ FINALLY AT CAVE!


Anyway. Luna stuns Alecto, and expresses surprise at how noisy the spell is. Uh, no, Luna, you just suck at casting it.

Then the ceiling of the common room begins to tremble, because the contractor the Hogwarts founders hired ripped them off and used papier mache instead of stone to build Ravenclaw Tower. Luna's spell was so craptastically loud, it apparently woke every single Ravenclaw and brought them crowding into the common room.

Then one brave little first-year darted up to her and prodded her backside with his big toe.

"I think she might be dead!" he shouted with delight.

*huggles* I love dumb kids. I wish Alecto would come to and AK his ass. :) Just to show him what "dead" really is.

And now Harry can haz vision again! Anybody wanna guess how far from the entrance of the cave Voldycakes has gotten in the time it took for *ALL OF RAVENCLAW* to wake up, get out of bed, assemble in the common room and make darling remarks about Stunned Alecto?

Anybody?

He's flying again. Flying across the lake. Hasn't even reached the basin.

I think it's because he was distracted by the hot lesbian babes doing it in the totally secluded sweet spot right at the entrance of the cave, you know? But I shouldn't say that in this fandom, I guess? Let's make it hot gay dudes. OK, then.

Back in Ravenclaw Tower, Amycus shows up on the other side of the Ravenclaw door and tries to bully the door into letting him in with such profound observations as "Garn!" and "Shut it!" and "Open the door!". Once again, JKR shows all the subtlety of a troll in the characterisation of these DEs. Cowardly, bullying, dumb or inarticulate = evil. We get it, Jo!!!!!

McGonagall shows up, pwns the Ravendoor as well as Amycus, and enters the Ravenclaw common room. Ravenclaws flee at the sight of Amycus, who goes postal when he sees Alecto lying Stunned.

"What've they done, the little whelps?" he screamed. "I'll Cruciate the lot of 'em …

In which we are told the verb form of the Cruciatus Curse. Somehow, this just seems like bad grammar to me. Ugh.

Yadda yadda yadda... McGonagall and Amycus talking...

"Why would Harry Potter try to get inside Ravenclaw Tower! Potter belongs in my House!"

Beneath the disbelief and anger, Harry heard a little strain of pride in her voice and affection for Minerva McGonagall gushed up inside him.

Hold on to it, Harry. You'll need this pride to justify what you're going to do in 5... 4... 3... 2...

... aaaaand GO!

Harry pulled the Cloak off himself, raised his wand, and said, "You shouldn't have done that."

As Amycus spun around, Harry shouted, "Crucio!"

And here follows the most shattering line in the whole series this side of "We sort too soon":

"I see what Bellatrix meant," said Harry, the blood thundering through his brain, "you need to really mean it."

Ah, Harry. *Hand over heart*. You've grown into such a gallant, chivalrous boy. Look at you, defending a defenceless woman's precious honour by horribly, deliberately torturing a retarded idiot (who says "garn" and "gorn") with an Unforgiveable Dark curse... for the egregious sin of defiling her sacrosanct robes with his vile sputum. Bravo! Bravo! *weeps*

And now McGonagall is going to kick the shit out of him for doing that...

"Potter, that was foolish!"

"He spat at you," said Harry.

"Potter, I -- that was very -- gallant of you – "

... or maybe not. WTF?! McGonagall is some simpering airhead female now?

Anyway, Harry warns McGonagall (though I think at this point she's a polyjuiced crossover parody character from South Park, just like all the rest of them) that Voldemort is on his way to Hogwarts.

Which, by the way, is a filthy lie. Because Harry can haz vision again:

In a distant part of Harry's brain, that part connected to the angry, burning scar, he could see Voldemort sailing fast over the dark lake in the ghostly green boat ... He had nearly reached the island where the stone basin stood ...

ALL THIS WHILE, people! He was just flying across the lake this whole time! He STILL hasn't reached the basin!

Maybe he's Inferi-sexual, too? I wish Harry could have some visions of *that* instead of all this pointless chillin', cryin' and flyin'.

Harry comes to again, and tells McGonagall he needs to find Ravenclaw's lost Diadem. McG is still a bit stunned, but not so stunned that she can't start casting Unforgiveable curses herself, following Our Brave Hero's excellent example – because, of course, she has forgotten how to use "Stupefy" or "Petrificus Totalus" or "Expelliarmus" or any of the million other NON-Dark NON-Unforgiveable spells she knows...

Before Harry or Luna could act, Professor McGonagall rose to her feet, pointed her wand at the groggy Death Eater, and said, "Imperio."

The sole purpose of the Unforgiveable, as far as I can see, is to make Amycus confiscate Alecto's wand and hand it over to McGonagall. Seriously, way to defang your most "dangerous" and "complicated" spells, Jo! First you use Patronuses for text messaging, and now Cruciatus as revenge for spitting, Imperius to disarm your opponents?

How about Avada Kedavra for zapping those pesky mosquitoes next?

Anyway, Harry suddenly haz vision again, and Voldemort has FINALLY reached the damn stone basin and found it bereft of Horcruxes and fake-Horcruxes alike. I wish Dumbledore and Harry had failed to get the fake-Horcrux out of there in the first place, just so I could see Voldiecakes's reaction when he figures out he was pwned by Regulus Black of all people. Damn. Now he'll just think Dumbledore and Harry did this one, too.

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Pointless conversation. McGonagall is insisting that Harry should get out of the school, until Harry drops the D-word and suddenly McG is all impressed and shit that it's not really Harry rushing into danger by himself, he's doing it on Dumbledore's say-so. That settles it, then.

They plan to evacuate as many underage students as possible out from Aberforth's bar (really, if you can put a Caterwauling Charm over the whole village of Hogsmeade, why not put one INSIDE all the homes and shops, too? Did Voldemort think NOBODY inside of Hogsmeade would allow Harry into their homes? Not even Albus Dumbledore's own brother? Hell, so many of the shops are boarded up and empty – like Honeydukes and Zonko's – that Harry wouldn't even need anybody's help evading the Caterwauling Charm if he'd only just had some brains.

Wait, I think I answered my own question... Voldemort seems to be quite aware of just how dumb Harry & Co. are.

Anyway, they all get out of the Ravenclaw common room to start getting the castle's defences up, evacuating people, etc. But wait! There's somebody in the corridors! Who could it be? Surely not -

"It is I," said a low voice.

From behind a suit of armor stepped Severus Snape.

Hallelujah! At the tail-end of Chapter 30 comes the most enigmatic, engaging, elusive, erotic, ebullient (er... I just ran out of applicable e- adjectives, sorry) character in the series. He wants to know if McGonagall has seen Harry. Ooooooooh... this could get interesting...

And then he stays on screen for all of two pages. Granted, he fights something nifty with McGonagall, but as soon as Flitwick shows up, Snape flies away. (What is up with Flitwick and Snape anyway? In HBP, too, Flitwick miraculously lost consciousness while talking to Snape...)

With a tingle of horror, Harry saw in the distance a huge, bat-like shape flying through the darkness toward the perimeter wall.

And he has left a...

Snape-shaped hole in the window.

...

...

...

Really, Jo? You're going for cartoon humour when you've got your most enigmatic, engaging, elusive, erotic character FINALLY on the page, fleeing though he may be?

Ah, well, time to cut to Harry's vision, where he sees Voldemort flying back over the Inferi-infested lake water. And, inexplicably, Voldemort's BOAT bumps into the "shore" of the lake. Huh? Wasn't he flying this whole time?

"Professor, we've got to barricade the school, he's coming now!"

No, I think you have a couple of hours still before he can get here, Harry, judging by his general speed...

So all the head teachers get together and decide on plans of action, going over how Voldie's just about to show up, how the school is in danger, how they need to protect it, AGAIN. Sprout goes off listing all the OMG!scary plants she can use against the Death Eaters. Yeah, Sprout, but they're all PLANTS, ok? And the most dangerous of them, Devil's Snare, was defeated in minutes by three first-year kids in the first book of the series. Hagrid siccing monsters on the DEs would be slightly impressive, this certainly is not.

Flitwick goes and starts chanting "enormously complex spells" through a window, "harnessing the power of the wind" against Voldemort and the DEs. Again, this would have been so much more impressive if only Jo'd taken the time to SHOW, not TELL. We never hear of this horrible wind power again, so I'm just going to assume Flitwick's spellwork is shoddy.

McGonagall is off animating the suits of armour. This is so corny.

Noticeably, Slughorn is the only head teacher without a plan or even determination to kick Voldie's ass.

"My word," he puffed, pale and sweaty, his walrus moustache aquiver.

All right, the Slytherins are all cowardly custards who shake in their moustaches like jelly. We get it, JO!!!!

Harry and Luna run back to the Room of Requirement. There are a whole new bunch of people there: Kingsley and Lupin and all his old Quidditch buddies and the Weasleys. Everybody's asking him, "What's going on?" so Harry has to explain ALL OVER AGAIN everything we've just seen, heard, read, and had explained to other characters repeatedly throughout this chapter. Voldemort is coming. People are getting ready to fight. Ba dum bum bish.

Everybody rushes off to fight, except for the Weasleys, who have Family Issues to settle.

"You're under-age!" Mrs. Weasley shouted at her daughter as Harry approached. "I won't permit it! The boys, yes, but you, you've got to go home!"

And this is why I cannot stand Molly Weasleys's stinking, hypocritical guts. Most everyone else in the family (except for Fred, bless him) chimes in and agrees with Molly. Ginny pleads and begs and stamps her feet instead of giving them all the finger and stalking out of the room with her wand held high. By the end, she's reduced to tears, and she looks at Harry:

She looked at him beseechingly, but he shook his head and she turned away bitterly.

"Fine," she said

Ginny, darling, repeat after me: "MY EX-BOYFRIEND IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME. I WILL RESIST MY AUTHOR-PRESCRIBED STEREOTYPE. FOREVER AND EVER, AMEN."

The farce of Ginny's life is interrupted when Percy finally shows up and apologises to his scummy family. Fred, darling boy that he is, is the first to speak to Percy and he moves to embrace him, but–

[Molly] ran forwards, pushed Fred aside, and pulled Percy into a strangling hug.

The paragon of motherhood, ladies and gentlemen.

While the Weasleys reconcile, Lupin and Fleur are shouting about, weirdly, over a photograph of baby Teddy Lupin. I honestly don't get the point of this sequence. Couldn't they have simply left the room if it was making them uncomfortable to be around the Weasleys' very private moment? There IS a battle going on outside, and they're needed.

But whatever. Reconciliation is done. Ginny gets to stay in the RoR. And Harry has another vision. Voldemort has finally reached Hogwarts. Just to recap:

HARRY VOLDYCAKES
Watched teachers talk about the battle situation. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched Flitwick do spells. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched Sprout hatch her diabolical plant plans. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched Slughorn sputter. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched McGonagall animate the suits of armour. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched people in the RoR rush off to battle. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched the Weasleys argue, reconcile, make out, whatever. Chillin' outside the caves.
Watched Lupin brandish his son's photograph. Chillin' outside the caves.
Haz vision. Apparated to Hogwarts.


[Voldemort] was looking through the high wrought-iron gates with winged boars on pillars at either side, looking through the dark grounds toward the castle, which was ablaze with lights.

Eh? Voldemort had winged boars with pillars on either side of him? He was looking THROUGH the dark grounds? And if the castle is ABLAZE with light, wouldn't at least some of it, I don't know, spill onto the dark grounds??

Dammit, Jo!

And so ends the saga of the "Sacking" of Severus Snape. Where the eponymous character, muchly awaited by fans, was on screen for a total of, oh, two minutes, and the rest of the chapter was spent pointlessly, repeatedly "analyzing the situation" where Voldemort is "about to show up" at Hogwarts, which he only does after taking 8 hours to check that he's missing two Horcruxes.

Next: More pointless stories, more muchly beloved characters skewered, STILL NO SNAPE OR VOLDEMORT ON SCREEN.

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Date: 2008-02-07 05:02 pm (UTC)
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You read my mind.....*sobs and grouphugs*

Someone on hp_essays wrote an essay trying to get all us "irrational DH haters" to change their minds. I say three words: Snape Shaped Hole.
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Snape appeared in the doorway.

"It is I!" said Snape triumphantly and with a hearty slap of a raised muscular thigh and an irreverent toss of his long black locks.


Pantomime is too kind a description for this chapter.
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Harry Potter and the Snape-Shaped Hole

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Date: 2008-02-07 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marionros.livejournal.com
It's really weird. JKR supposedly wrote a 'serious' book about *gasp* Evul!Nazis, but a lot of things in this horrendous book looks nicked from that famous British comedy sitcom 'Allo 'Allo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'Allo_'Allo!

In 'Allo 'Allo you have, for instance, Monsieur LeClerc, who often walks around in ridiculous 'disguises' (for instance, he disguises himself as 'an innocent onionseller' with a cap and strings of onions around his neck, and will then, very conspicious, yell at the top of his voice "who will buy the onions of an innocent onionseller!") and then sidle up to the lead character, lift his glasses and say, "It is I, LeClerc!".

Then, as a running gag, there are the two very brave-but-foolish British airmen, who are hidden from the Nazis in the most outrageous places. And that's *all* they ever do during the nine seasons and more than eighty episodes: they hide. And are 'brave'. Sounds familiar?

I don't get it, Jo! Are you trying to write a 'serious' story where Good Wizards fight Evul Nazis and where People Die, or are you trying your hand at parody? Either way, YOU SUCK!!

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Date: 2008-02-07 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
Princess Zelda said "It is I, Zelda, the Princess of Hyrule" in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

In her defense, she's a bloody PRINCESS. But I swear, outside of the HP books, that's the only place... and in context, it was kind of cool...

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Date: 2008-02-07 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsbaine.livejournal.com
And this is why I cannot stand Molly Weasleys's stinking, hypocritical guts.

I prayed ever page she would die, I know the rest of the Weasley’s were praying along with me. Arthur was just dreaming of spending his retirement in that shed fiddling with muggles things.

Had Rowling really cared about Mr Weasley she would have done for Molly first chance she got. I HATE HER.


Date: 2008-02-07 03:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minkhollow
I'll Cruciate the lot of 'em …
The thing about this? It puts my brain in filk territory again.

CARROOOOOOOOOOOOOOWS!
CARROOOOOOOOOOOOOOWS!
Cruciating the countryside, Cruciating the students...

That's as far as I can get, though. If anyone else wants to finish off not!Trogdor, be my guest.

Date: 2008-02-07 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmoa.livejournal.com
Oh my God... I'd forgotten how awful this bit was (I only read the book through once for consistency's sake). On the plus side, I now have the image of Voldemort spending the entire war drooling over 'men at play' and a new pairing for the new age: Snitwick!

Date: 2008-02-07 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dacian-goddess.livejournal.com
God, I'm typing through a gag reflex here, the chapter is such rubbish. And the more screen time JKR gives Molly Weasley, the less believable I can find *that duel*.

For how good and riveting the duel between Snape and McGonagall could have been, the pointless dialogue interspersed through the scene made it fall so very flat.

Also, if it takes Voldemort a few hours to do a round trip across the lake in 'his' cave, yet Snape becomes a dot on the horizon in only a couple of minutes, physics bids us to conclude that the lake is several dozen times bigger than the Hogwarts grounds. Ergo, that boat must have been moving at several times Mach speed for Dumbledore not to have croaked it right there and joined the Inferi (which still would have been an improvement over this whole book, in my view).

Slightly off-topic, I've recently started accepting new, post-DH authors for beta reading, and I can honestly say I'm a bit alarmed. What I've read so far was rife with poorly-constructed run-on sentences, abuse of present perfect and inexplicable viewpoint switches à la JKR. I'm more than a little concerned that new authors are getting the idea that they need to emulate the DH-writing style at all.

Date: 2008-02-07 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
Not unless they start abusing colons.

THEN they need to be taken in for deprogramming.

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It must have taken some clever magic from Snape to make a Snape-Shaped hole. Normal people leave a window pane smashed to bits when they exit but our Snape can manage it with much more flair.

He can also fly so much more efficiently than Voldiepants! Yeah Snape!

Nope, this is this the first instance of how she butchers my favorite character. You know, the one she once called "a gift of a character".

Date: 2008-02-07 05:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Quite apart from everything else that is stupid in this chapter, I can't get over Snape flying. Why on earth can Snape fly? (Why can Voldemort, for that matter? There seems to be no other possible explanation than that he has to be slowed down to be completely inefficient at stopping Harry...) But Snape! There has to be a reason, right? And a story behind why we have never seen him fly before? Or can it be that she could just not find any other means of getting him out of the castle alive, now that McGonagall has started using Unforgivable curses? Though when you see how Harry gets by, surely it can't have been difficult for Rowling to come up with some lame scenario allowing Snape to escape. ...Oh, wait.

Date: 2008-02-07 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
I assumed he was a Bat Animagus - that's how I took the "batlike shape".

It makes far more sense than the "Voldy taught him" explanation.

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Date: 2008-02-07 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marionros.livejournal.com
"McGonagall is off animating the suits of armour. This is so corny."

Indeed. If I were JKR, I'd worry. She might be filthy rich with ill-gotten gain, but Disney still Rules. First she rips off Bugs Bunny and the Road Runner. Well, okay, cartoony 'holes in the shape of people' are so commonplace nowadays, she probably won't get sued by Warner Bros. Then she rips off the British comedy series 'Allo 'Allo (see my other post), but she's richer than the queen and probably can get away with parodying a parody on WWII.
But Jo, Jo, JO.... *shakes head* What were you thinking? Ripping off *Disney*?! Better get yourself a lawyer, girl!

And anyway, 'Bedknobs and Broomsticks' is a far, far better story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedknobs_and_Broomsticks


Date: 2008-02-07 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jodel-from-aol.livejournal.com
Snape flying is just plain stupid.

The Snape-shaped hole halfway convinced me that the whole bloody book is an attempt at parody. If it had completely convinced me I might have felt better about the whole thing.

Otoh, if we are going to explore *rational* motivations, and intentions that actually might have made a grain of sense, Snape *had* to get his arse out of the castle *before* Tom showed up. By any means possible.

If he had still been there when Voldemort showed, Voldemort would have fully expected Snape to throw open the gates and let him, and all the troops he brought with him, IN. There would have been no way, and no hope of defending the place. Snape still had to pass Albus's message to Potter, yes, but thanks to Alecto, he couldn't do that and defend the castle both. He had to make a choice, and he chose maintaining his cover and leaving the rest of the staff to actually defend the place.

I mean, that much is obvious. But do we even get a hint that anyone is aware of it? That even *Rowling* is aware of it?

As if. From her interviews she *blames* him for leaving!!

Date: 2008-02-09 11:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arcanetrivia
She, and the castle both. I mean, the castle is inanimate. Over how-many-years it has, or should have , built up some sentience. But I can see how it would have a very single-track mind about these things, and view Snape's actions as "breach of contract" ("oh, and, thanks for the hole in the window, pal, that used to be a nice one") and thus refuse to provide him a portrait. Sure. Maybe I can rationalize that. This isn't in the book, obviously; it's only from interview that I infer this. And if JKR were saying "well, the castle thought this", then sure, maybe. But she herself appears to agree, which makes me raise an eyebrow at the very least.

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Date: 2008-02-07 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
And here follows the most shattering line in the whole series this side of "We sort too soon":

"I see what Bellatrix meant," said Harry, the blood thundering through his brain, "you need to really mean it."


Ah, Harry. *Hand over heart*. You've grown into such a gallant, chivalrous boy. Look at you, defending a defenceless woman's precious honour by horribly, deliberately torturing a retarded idiot (who says "garn" and "gorn") with an Unforgiveable Dark curse... for the egregious sin of defiling her sacrosanct robes with his vile sputum. Bravo! Bravo! *weeps*

And now McGonagall is going to kick the shit out of him for doing that...


I. LOVE. YOU. *kisses hem of your robes* Thank you thank you thank you. *bows* Excellent sporking. Excellent excellent excellent THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Date: 2008-02-07 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
Either Voldie isn't all that interested in the whole killing Potter and rulling the world bit, and so kept stepping out for a pot of tea, or he caught some of Harry's stupidity and laziness when he horcruxed him. Not that that explains the rest of what's wrong with this mess.

Did any character make it through this book with their personailty intact? *sigh* Common sense didn't survive the book, why should anything else.

Date: 2008-02-07 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyxfixx.livejournal.com
And here follows the most shattering line in the whole series this side of "We sort too soon":


"I see what Bellatrix meant," said Harry, the blood thundering through his brain, "you need to really mean it."


Holy shit - I think this right here warrants a moment of appalled silence.

OK - now I can go on. *I* think it must be some sinister hallucinogenic substance thundering through his brain, because he's clearly lost his cotton-picking mind. Six GD books assuring us over and over that even Rowling's irrational, ethically confused, dimwitted wizards can at least recognize and condemn the idea of atrocity and now torture is just a moment of youthful arrogance?? Just a little mistake??? OMG - they are Unforgivable Curses, not Somewhat-Excessive-Curses or Generally-Frowned-On Curses. Isn't "Unforgivable" a term that cannot be qualified, like "pregnant" or "dead" - or like - "evil by definition"? GAH.

Not even dwelling on how outright OOC it is that only two years earlier in his story, Harry, out of his mind w/ rage and grief over a murder, could not summon the genuine hellish cruelty needed to cast this curse. Yet here he can perform it over a mere insult. Why, oh why, couldn't Harry have just punched Carrow (a rare species of Spitting-Death-Eater, no doubt) in the gob and have done with it??

Continuity error. Moral error. Character-arc error. Sanity error. Hell, in a way, it's even a grammatical error. How wrong is this Cruciatus Curse - let me count the ways. This one tiny section, for me, was the absolute nadir of the entire series - I'm still foaming at the mouth about it after all this time (as can be plainly seen - sigh).

On the other hand - LOL - great spork! I think I'll be seeing Snape as the Roadrunner chirping "meep meep" as he crashes out the window for a good long time.

Date: 2008-02-07 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
*hugs you* Thank you. That's EXACTLY my view on it. It didn't help that I read the Rose Potter sporkings, and so had it outlined for me EXACTLY why Harry couldn't, wouldn't, and shouldn't cast Cruciatus... and then he did.

And people DEFEND him for it. *gags* Mosey on over to canonrants. I complained about this scene. Some people said "Well, it was WARTIME!" or "The world isn't that black and white!" or, or, or... And some of the HMS_STFU people said 'Well, it's only once' or 'Harry's been under a lot of stress', or... GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! People! Let's just admit that JKR FUCKED THE FUCKING HELL UP WITH THIS SCENE and be done with it! This is NOT A DEFENSIBLE ACT! *bashes head against air*

...Erm, I'm actually tempted to friend you. I haven't really seen anyone who could have plucked ALL the arguments against that scene right out of my mind. :D *sigh*

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Date: 2008-02-08 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westernredcedar.livejournal.com
Thank you thank you thank you.
I have the shivers from revisiting all the WTFery in this chapter, and you hit every point with painful accuracy.
Flying Snape. The casual use of Unforgivables. Molly. Slo-mo Voldie. I have nothing to add, the horror has me struck dumb.

Date: 2008-02-08 03:46 am (UTC)

Here courtesy of Jodel-

Date: 2008-02-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
That is wonderful! I laughed so hard I cried. It should be all over the internet. Would you consider posting it to Snapedom, or allow me to do so?

Date: 2008-02-09 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delphinapterus.livejournal.com
I think that Voldemort doesn't need to kill Harry just recruit him. The boy is already at full-use when it comes to the Unforgivables (which apparently are only unforgivable if you're "bad") and he's dim enough that a few twists of logic should put him right on Voldemort's side.

Great sporking, all the chillin', cryin' and flyin' was hilarious. I'm with you in the Molly hatred. I think JKR was trying for the pushy motherly type but just failed to make her anything other than annoying.

Date: 2008-02-09 11:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arcanetrivia
Cruciate the lot of 'em …

In which we are told the verb form of the Cruciatus Curse. Somehow, this just seems like bad grammar to me. Ugh.


Is this attaching an English suffix to a Latin (or sort of Latin) noun? I don't know quite enough to tell if that's what's tripping your sensor. I wouldn't expect Amycus to use good English grammar, so using bad Latin grammar isn't too far off in that sense, but I agree it feels clumsy to read/hear in the head, somehow. Maybe this would have been a good point to use the definitely-wrong "I'll Crucio the lot", or maybe "I'll give the lot of 'em the Cruciatus"?

How about Avada Kedavra for zapping those pesky mosquitoes next?

I've always wondered exactly what angsty teenage Severus was doing to "shoot down flies" in that glimpse Harry had in OotP...

I wish Dumbledore and Harry had failed to get the fake-Horcrux out of there in the first place, just so I could see Voldiecakes's reaction when he figures out he was pwned by Regulus Black of all people.

That would have been awesome!

enigmatic, engaging, elusive, erotic, ebullient (er... I just ran out of applicable e- adjectives, sorry)

Ebullient, lol. And, hehehe "erotic". You know it ;)

But what's up with these e-adjectives anyway? Are you betraying the fold of the ss-faith of sibilant ss-alliteration? ;)

he fights something nifty with McGonagall

Minerva and Severus both are pretty bad-ass here. It's all wordless, complex magic, and very fast-paced, with reactions on a dime. (So where was this Minerva a few pages ago?!)

McGonagall is off animating the suits of armour. This is so corny.

Tonight, the part of Minerva McGonagall will be played by Angela Lansbury.

I liked this too. Corny, yes, but hey. My problem isn't with corny, slapstick, goofy bits, but that they are not blended well with the serious parts. And it can be done -- not only Pratchett or Douglas Adams, for instance, but even earlier Rowling manages it better!

Date: 2008-02-10 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ja-bucc.livejournal.com
enigmatic, engaging, elusive, erotic, ebullient (er... I just ran out of applicable e- adjectives, sorry)

erudite, entertaining, exotic(ly good-looking?)... ok, I'm all out too. *grin*

Great spork!
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